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[r/ML] Is Attention sink without Positional Encoding unavoidable? [D]

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A researcher experimenting with Transformer models found that removing Positional Encoding (PE) from self or cross-attention consistently leads to problematic "vertical hot lines" in attention heatmaps. This observation prompts the question of whether effective query-conditioned attention can be achieved in Transformers without the necessity of PE. The issue suggests a fundamental dependency on PE for stable attention mechanisms in current Transformer architectures.

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